P. Mu Club Racer

[dbz]

Who has them and how are they on street? I have HC800 now, front pads are almost worn down and heaps left on rear so thinking of throwing in a set of Club Racers.

[rsturbo92]

fantastic pad for the money. very capable on the track, and not too bad on the street.

my vote is separate pad for road and track! no compromise!

[dbz]

fantastic pad for the money. very capable on the track, and not too bad on the street.

my vote is separate pad for road and track! no compromise!

Thanks Tim ideally would be great to have seperate sets but i am too time poor and lazy to keep swapping sets

[rsturbo92]

Fair enough mate!

[neptune11]

Hey Zhi mate,
Give the winmax W5s a go up front...
They were awesome on Saturday, & go ok on street..!!

[JBonDSS]

I have a low km set in my gc8, If you always remember that the brakes won't work effiecently cold you should be ok

But if you one to tho the keys to a mate to pick up another 6pack coz you have had to many yourself , I wouldn't run them

[dbz]

Hey Shane its a real toss up between the Winmax pads and the ClubRacer but being the next step up from the HC800 and only slightly more expensive i am quite keen to try them out

And thanks for the feedback JBonDSS, thats the only worry for me but how long does it take to get them to come in? Are they also very noisy?

[dbz]

Should i run Club racer at the front and leave the HC800 in the rear? i don't know what it would do to my car's balance under braking , and end up wearing out the Club Racer's quicker too .

[neptune11]

Should i run Club racer at the front and leave the HC800 in the rear? i don't know what it would do to my car's balance under braking , and end up wearing out the Club Racer's quicker too .

Yeh, I'm not sure on that one mate

As you're running bigger brakes and rotors than me.
I've got the W5s up front and W3s on rear!

[Snowy]

Hey Zhi, I'm pretty sure Scott (Alpha Dog) is running the Club Racers up front & HC800's at the rear on his 06 STi, he might be able to chime in with this experience/thoughts

Also, how did your new Recaro race seat go at Sandown on the weekend? Are you happy with it?

[dbz]

Hey Zhi, I'm pretty sure Scott (Alpha Dog) is running the Club Racers up front & HC800's at the rear on his 06 STi, he might be able to chime in with this experience/thoughts

Also, how did your new Recaro race seat go at Sandown on the weekend? Are you happy with it?

Hey Snowy thanks for that! Scott where are you!!??

My Recaros felt great i think it might have even helped me keep the car from spinning out one time, just caught it in turn 2 under braking the back end stepped out But the funny thing is my helmet was hitting the head rest because i got one of those motorcycle helmets with a pointy back end haha, so all day i wasn't 100% comfortbale with my seating position as my neck wasn't able to extend fully! So i went and got myself a cheap and cheerful ($49) open face helmet today

[Alpha Dog]

I'm here. The balance with the HC800 rear + Club Racer front on the track and with R-specs is good. The fronts have more bite but the point of lockup/ABS seems balanced across all 4. I don't run the Club Racers on the road except for bedding in... and doing that on sticky road tyres the fronts are locking before the back (which is stable). I agree with the comments above re running them on the road... not as bad as I expected. I have no evidence that the CR's will wear the rotors faster, but others have said they will... and maybe on the road when cold and operating in friction rather than hot material transfer they will. (If you don't understand that last bit ... read more). They don't squeal as much as the HC800's but shims cure that for them both.

I plan to run the Club Racers across all 4 (track only) when the HC800's are done.

[dbz]

I'm here. The balance with the HC800 rear + Club Racer front on the track and with R-specs is good. The fronts have more bite but the point of lockup/ABS seems balanced across all 4. I don't run the Club Racers on the road except for bedding in... and doing that on sticky road tyres the fronts are locking before the back (which is stable). I agree with the comments above re running them on the road... not as bad as I expected. I have no evidence that the CR's will wear the rotors faster, but others have said they will... and maybe on the road when cold and operating in friction rather than hot material transfer they will. (If you don't understand that last bit ... read more). They don't squeal as much as the HC800's but shims cure that for them both.

I plan to run the Club Racers across all 4 (track only) when the HC800's are done.

hey mate thats awesome feedback much appreciated Picked up the club racers today already so will be keen to test them out Reason i went with them is because i still have heaps of HC800 left on the rears and will probably go Club Racers all round once they are done like you or Winmax all round. but i suspect i will be going through another set of front pads before the rears are finished at this rate.

[Dozza12]

Hi dbz, I was in the Silver 15 STI running with you at Sandown (i think) on the 30th, I was running RC09's up front with PMU 2 piece rotors and HC800's in the rear, the stopping power is awesome and felt well balanced with no fade noticed in any of the sessions running Yoko Ad08R's. However, I have used over 70% of the front pads up already after just one and a half tracks days and about 500kms road driving. Have now got a set of PMU H12's on order, will see how they go. As for street Driving on RC09's they felt fine with not too much squeal, the HC800s in the rear are really noisy though.

[dbz]

Hi dbz, I was in the Silver 15 STI running with you at Sandown (i think) on the 30th, I was running RC09's up front with PMU 2 piece rotors and HC800's in the rear, the stopping power is awesome and felt well balanced with no fade noticed in any of the sessions running Yoko Ad08R's. However, I have used over 70% of the front pads up already after just one and a half tracks days and about 500kms road driving. Have now got a set of PMU H12's on order, will see how they go. As for street Driving on RC09's they felt fine with not too much squeal, the HC800s in the rear are really noisy though.

Hey mate thanks for the feedback! Really appreciate it! I purchased some RC09s for the fronts the other day and i am going to just slot them onto my dba4000 t3 single piece rotor so hopefully no issues there. And 2 piece rotors will go in down the road i am sure I could tell you really had lots of confidence in your brakes at Sandown! I think the hard braking zones were my achilles heal, just don't feel like the HC800s were as good as they were before (5 trackdays worth of useage and thousands of street kms). I did look at the H12s as well but thought i will try the RC09s first. Hope to see you at the next Sandown trackday!

[Dozza12]

I ran the HC800 up front with standard rotors earlier this year and after 3 track days at Sandown the outer right pad failed and disintegrated braking into turn 6 (not fun), after that we pulled the HC800s out and found that with the other 3 pads the compound had become completely separated from the backing plates!. The RC09 gives you a lot more confidence especially with a bit of heat, I will have no chance of even keeping close to you now lol.

[dbz]

I ran the HC800 up front with standard rotors earlier this year and after 3 track days at Sandown the outer right pad failed and disintegrated braking into turn 6 (not fun), after that we pulled the HC800s out and found that with the other 3 pads the compound had become completely separated from the backing plates!. The RC09 gives you a lot more confidence especially with a bit of heat, I will have no chance of even keeping close to you now lol.

Damn that's scary! Not the first time i heard about the HC800's going to crumbs.. maybe they are just not meant for heavy track use. I loved them when they were newish though. And don't worry about keeping up with me, i am slow keep a look out for Leon in his MY08 STI, he did quicker times than me on street tyres (Hankook RS3) and i am on Hankook TD r compound. It was his first attempt at Sandown too!

[funwin]

Project Mu Club Racers +1

I use them on th street with no issues. They squeal when cold but performance is right there and are fantastic when warm and fantastic on the track. Seem to last a lot longer than a cheaper pad too.

Good choice

[dbz]

Project Mu Club Racers +1

I use them on th street with no issues. They squeal when cold but performance is right there and are fantastic when warm and fantastic on the track. Seem to last a lot longer than a cheaper pad too.

Good choice

Thanks mate Good to know more people happy with it.

[Alpha Dog]

What about Winmax pads? Has anyone tried them compared to the PMU Club Racers? Which Winmax is equivalent?