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Postby kasdave » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:07 am

Ok. Treat it like the lounge area. Anything photography to be discussed and ad links if you want.
Heres one for you.
What size and type of memory car are you using?
My Sandisk Ultra 16GB seems to be slow when reviewing the pics, and that makes me wonder if its up to the job of taking the pics.
By slow I mean as i browse through them for around a sec the pic is not clear but then comes clear...
its a class 4 and 15MB/s. I bought it with the camera.
I see on eBay you can get genuine Sandisk Extreme Pro SDHC 8GB for $48 they are 45 MB/s... seems cheap as.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT
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Postby Harbs » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:23 am

Yeah, I have a 30mbs 8 gig card, and it works fine! Can take multiple RAW photos before it really starts labouring.

Remember too that the transfer rate of the camera could also be the limiting factor.
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Postby wokka wokka » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:21 am

I'm using Sandisk Ultra II 1GB and 2GB, but then my EOS 20D is only 8.2 megapixel :giggle:

I would upgrade my camera body, but can't really justify the cost for a 7D :cry:
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Postby wokka wokka » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:25 am

kasdave wrote:I see on eBay you can get genuine Sandisk Extreme Pro SDHC 8GB for $48 they are 45 MB/s... seems cheap as.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT


Oh, and be very careful with cards off ebay, it's reckoned a lot of them are fake.
They report they have the right capacity when you look at them, but try and fill them up and they aren't.

http://reviews.ebay.com.au/FAKE-SanDisk-Extreme-Compact-Flash-Cards-Exposed_W0QQugidZ10000000001449653
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Postby Lupin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:16 am

Was the card always like this or has it got worse over time.

Could just need a good old format.
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Postby 05-RSX » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:33 pm

^I'm don't know the nerdy/technical side beind that, but I regularly format my cards, and have never had any reading/writing speed issues. (+it's a damn lot quicker than deleting them all manually)

Dave;
A few things come into play here
-card read/write speed, as you've identified, although it sounds like you're using decent cards, so I doubt this is the problem. I used to run 2 Sandisks SDHC cards in my D90- 1x 8GB, Grp4, UltraII; 1x 16GB, Grp.4, Ultra(I); neither of which I really had problems with wh rapid/continuous shooting. It did choke a little bit when shooting raw, but if you're seriously running out of that much buffer space either a)the camera is waaay undespeced for what you're trying to do; b) you're adopting the 'spray and pray' technique. I use 16GB Sandisk Extreme CF-card on my D700 at the moment, and oddly, I swear the body write speed was faster on my D90, or maybe I'm just shooting more raw (I did only switch over from jpg a few months before the D90 was introduced to the ocean)
-buffer size, the 'short term memory' of the camera where it dumps photo data while it waits to write it to the card
-camera read/write speed, sometimes this holds things up as the 'software' on the camera is 'bulky'
-previewing, I remember when previewing on my old D90, it'd make low qual. previews, then they'd get better if you paused on them for a second or two (as you describe). I assume they did this to save time if you're flicking through a whole bunch trying to find a pic - you dont want to waste processor/battery reading every file in high quality if you're only going to skip over it looking for another; much like windows makes LQ thumbnails for when you're skimming through a folder on your computer.
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Postby kasdave » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:55 pm

The card has done it from the start... I format it every time I download to the computer...read somewhere that its from computers that cards pick up their bugs.
I dont store the pics long on my card...

Should have had you look at it yesterday, maybe I am just being a little fussy..though my old Powershot Pro 1 never had the little lapse in displaying clearly...
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Postby XT1337 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:14 pm

i have made this a sticky so it stays up top of the forum.

good idea BTW
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Postby Khaled » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:16 pm

Royce, a good idea would be if you create a photography section under the General Access Area. Photography talk doesn't have to be about Motorsport, does it ?

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Postby kasdave » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:49 pm

Good idea... :thumbs:
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Postby psyninja » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:52 pm

What is a good (simple) program to do some post processing with that is readily available/downloadable?

something I can cut my teeth on before getting inot the serious stuff

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Postby 05-RSX » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:59 pm

Lightroom.

Talking to Harbs about this recently:

Lightoom?
Brief rundown: Basically some of the Adobe guys who built Photoshop were into photography, but found photoshop too clumsy to use for simple photo editting tasks. So they got together, and with the help of Adobe produced Lightroom (play on words with Darkroom (for film stuff)) - a program specially built for editting photos (essentially a digital darkroom) without all the heavy manipulation stuff photoshop carries; they also built in a very powerful cataloging tool, I only use a tiny fraction of it's 'power', but you can go crazy with ratings, colour coding, metdata keywords and searching. Very useful.

Useful? You bet.
Easy to use? Fairly. Does assume some basic photography knowledge, but is pretty easy to get the hang of. Heaps of stuff I don't touch, because I eiher don't know how and/or can't be bothered.
Acquiring? They're up to v.3 now (v3.4 i think).
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Postby wokka wokka » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:21 pm

There's a good in depth (8 page) review of Lightroom here - http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/adobelightroom3/
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Postby whitewrx » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:33 pm

psyninja wrote:What is a good (simple) program to do some post processing with that is readily available/downloadable?

something I can cut my teeth on before getting inot the serious stuff


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Postby whitewrx » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:51 pm

Dave, to answer your card question. Often it's a case of the camera has surpassed the cards capacity ! :wall: ...I have a number of CF cards, extreme's and all, but when I got my new D300s, the cards just could not keep up and would take a while to "load up".........I got it checked out, being new I was concerned the camera HAD the problem, but, I went to a "faster" card...and problem solved...I'm thinking your issue will be the same, I have a faster SD card you can try if you like .
I've bought a number of cards from fleabay, and all have been good, but I ALWAYS check the sellers feedback.....anything looking dodgie....walk on bye ! .
Just remember, the BIGGER the card, the more the camera has to store and sort as it writes. I have some big cards, but mostly I use smaller cards, that way IF one dies, I don't loose ALL my photo's, and buffering isn't an issue !

I was only talking to a guy at work today about what to use to edit, I've heard good things about Lightroom, being crap with a PC I wanted something I could use :oops: with ease . Thanks for posting that link, I'll have a read of it later ! .
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Postby Khaled » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:16 pm

psyninja wrote:What is a good (simple) program to do some post processing with that is readily available/downloadable?

something I can cut my teeth on before getting inot the serious stuff


Picasa is quite nice freeware to use.

iPhoto on Macs is not too bad either.

Aperture/Lightroom are more on the pro end of photo editing but they're worth every cent.

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Postby kasdave » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:20 pm

Was reading about lightroom last night...but i thought it was a add on for photoshop.... so can you use it without having photoshop..?
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Postby Khaled » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:21 pm

^ Yes.

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Postby kasdave » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:25 pm

Thanks Khaled..
On another note... I thought I had lost my battery charger last week...couldnt find it anywhere so thought I had left it in Wangaratta whilst working there a few weeks ago... did a search and found this place on eBay.
First I went to Camerahouse and was quote around $140 for Nikon replacement or around $100 for aftermarket.
This place supplied one, delivered free the next day for $30, in fact ordered and payed via paypal in the arvo, it arrived 8am the next day with Aus Post courier.
Very impressed.
Bought a battery too, but stuffed up and ordered the wrong one..trying to get in contact to change it over...they are in South Melb.
I bought the Nikon EN-EL3a for $25 and should have got the EN-EL3e for $50.
They are $69 at Camerahouse.

Call themselves nikon-shop
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWNX:IT

Funny thing was a soon as i clicked the "buy it now" button my wife found the charger in my daughters room.
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Postby Khaled » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:40 pm

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